Bajaj Avenger 200 Vs Bullet Thunderbird Twin Spark
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It’s low and looks superb in any paint given. The Avenger is famous for its low styling and a powerful engine which passes the Thunderbird in a blink of eye. They have similar outputs when it comes to speed and economy. One of the reasons for the comparison with these two monsters is because of performance. I am delighted to say the lunacy’s back.
Speed, speed and more speed
| Bajaj Avenger 200 | Bullet Thunderbird Twin Spark | |
| Engine Type | Air cooled, DTSi | Single Cylinder, 4 Stroke, OHV, Dual Spark Ignition Engine, Air Cooled |
| Displacement | 178.6 (cc) | 346 CC |
| Net Power | 17.5bhp@8000rpm | 19.8 bhp @ 5250 rpm |
| Torque | 16.8Nm@6000rpm | 28 Nm @ 4000 rpm |
| Air Filter | Bajaj air filter | NA |
| Carburetor | NA | BS29 / UCAL |
| Oil Capacity | 1 liter | NA |
| Transmission | 5-Speed | 5 Speed (left foot gear shift) |
| Gear Shift Pattern | 1 down 4 up | NA |
| Body and Designs | ||
| Frame | Double cradle | NA |
| Front Suspension | 140mm Telescopic | Tele Scopic With Hydraulic Damping. Stroke 130mm. |
| Rear Suspension | 90mm Hydraulic | Swing arm With Gas Shock Absorbers stroke 80mm |
| Tires and Wheels | ||
| Front Tyre | 17 | 3.25 x 19″, 6/4 PR |
| Rear Tyre | 15 | 3.5 x 19″, 6/4 PR |
| Brakes | ||
| Front Brake | Disc 260 (mm) | Hydraulic Disc Brake (Disc dia 280mm) |
| Rear Brake | Drum 130 (mm) | Internal Expansion (Drum), 6″ |
| Dimensions and Weight | ||
| Length | 2185 (mm) | 2120 mm |
| Width | 750 (mm) | 780 mm |
| Height | 1070 (mm) | 1080 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1475 (mm) | 1370 mm |
| Ground Clearance | 162 (mm) | 135 mm |
| Fuel Tank Capacity | 14 (L) | NA |
| Reserve Tank Capacity | 3.4 (L) | NA |
| Kick Kerb weight | 152 (kg) | NA |
| Electrical | ||
| Ignition | Digital Twin Spark Ignition | Digital TCI (Transistor Coil Ignition) |
| Headlamp | 60/55 W | 35W/35W Halogen, MFR |
Balancing act
Since both the bikes are in cruiser section they offer superb comfort. The Avenger is superb when it comes to long ride. Low seating style works perfect when it comes to long tours. The bike is designed for long tours in any terrain. Ride the thunderbird and you have a serious look. On the other hand ride the Avenger and you will be grinning to glory. The Thunderbird is also comfortable but too heavy which makes it boring to ride. If you are a fan of the thumping then the Thunderbird makes sense.
Mileage
Well who buys these bikes for economy, to hell with the average. These bikes are meant for rides which are memorable and one of a kind. The Avenger delivers an output of 35 to 40kmpl. On the other hand the Thunderbird delivers and average of 20 to 25kmpl. Riding them in red line gear change will reduce the economy by 5 to 10kmpl.
Time to go to the ATM
Well if you are a fan of the thumping and dreamt about the cruiser which takes over all others then go for the Thunderbird. The Avenger is quite and stealth which crushes all thumping dreams. If you need power then the Avenger is the best option. According to performance, economy and maintenance the Avenger is best against the Thunderbird. The main purpose of Thunderbird is noise and feel which are not delivered by the Avenger. At times you might feel like the king of road when riding the Avenger with your family. For long tours with your loved ones the Avenger is the best bike.
By editor in Auto India News, Auto Industry News, Bajaj, Bike Comparisons, Royal Enfield
Sujna responded on 25 Jun 2010 at 7:47 pm #
I love to buy Bajaj avenger because of its superb style but the problem is its price in Bangalore . Can anyone help me buy this Byke ?
vipin responded on 28 Aug 2010 at 9:57 am #
avenger 200 and 220 sucks …
Nitin responded on 13 Sep 2010 at 2:23 am #
what a worst comparison ,if u are comparing bajaj avenger vs bullet Thunderbird then u are comparing like tiger with lion. Thunderbird is like lion if u are saying avenger is more powerful speedy and performance is good it will be but not compare to Thunderbird.all mechanist rec omened Thunderbird. ya look wise avenger is little good but in other area it lacks.simple example which engine give more power 178 cc or 350 cc think rest all in u r hand u are are smart….:)
Ajit.V.Gupta responded on 06 Oct 2010 at 4:02 am #
A very bad review. I Own a 2006 Avenger, and to say just like all other Bajaj vehicles, it sucks.
For a year or two you would love its “Power” as the above writeup claims, but 2-3 years, the machine shows its true color. look at any 3 year old pulsar, the vehicle sounds like junk. all parts tend to come loose and more maintenance unless you wish to use it the way it is. Same engine is put in the avenger. Ofcourse if you handle carefully any bike can last long, but cruisers mean something, tough people full of crank, looking for fun,
Never buy Bajaj , they have improved a lot from those chetak days but still not at par. Avenger service is done only in few places in bangalore, mileage has reduced a lot since its early days. and the bike now seems unstable.
I do not own an enfield, but by experience, its the best bike you would get. The service costs may be bit higher but you will get good VFM. Enfields are built like a tank, and they last long.
jinesh responded on 08 Oct 2010 at 5:29 am #
ey guys plss help me i m totaly confused which one is more gud among both …
Rhoads responded on 08 Oct 2010 at 9:10 am #
Hi Jinesh,
)modern cars with 1200-1500 cc engines produce much more power than tractors that have a 4-5 liter (i.e. 4000-5000 cc) engine. However, those tractors deliver a monstrous torque which will trash the cars. Similarly, Avenger 220 delivers a max torque of 17.5 Nm while this is a devilish 28 Nm for Enfield and that flattens out all the roads for the enfield. However 17.5 is not a bad number at all. This “might” (not “will”) really matter if you wanna take ur bike for a spin to the himalayas.
I’d suggest avenger 220 if you will be riding IN the city’s jams more and will go for a long ride say once in a month (which I feel is very likely like any other IT dude).
Hi Nitin,
I do accept your POV. But I’d like to add something here. This comparison is pretty sensible and would have been more sensible if it had been a comparison between Avenger 220 (18.8 BHP) Vs Thunderbird (19.5 BHP). Then about your opinion on “175cc vs 350cc” which one will give more power, our (indian
Hi Ajit.V.Gupta,
I am not being blindly brand loyal here. I have owned a Pulsar 150 (2005, all down gears, not the yamaha type 1 down 4 up system) and I have been pretty satisfied with it. I have done 500km + in one day with her quite a few times and I am yet to have a problem. She’s one hell of a ride. The same fading interest applies with the “THUMP” of the bull. I love bullets. But that’s the sad truth.
Cheers,
Rhoads
rohith responded on 15 Oct 2010 at 2:28 pm #
never seen a shit review like this… i own a thunderbird twinspark and i am getting a gud mileage of 40 kmpl and those riding a avenger 200 getting only 25-30 kmpl.
and the other thing is this man not rided a thunderbird yet..i am pretty sure about this..because u dont feel the heavy weight wen u r ring a thunderbird..
pls write the review only after getting a gud knowledge..it will misleads the readers
u can never compare a royal enfield bike with a bajaj..
suhail responded on 26 Oct 2010 at 3:36 am #
i accept with rohith, i am also having a 2003 thunderbird, not a twin spark one, but still it gives me around 38-40 kmpl and those who were initially scared of riding a bullet have driven mine and give a +ve reply that its not as tough as it seems. it weight is very less notices one u start rolling. Thunderbird is the best.
Jawahar responded on 01 Nov 2010 at 12:19 pm #
Dont know who got this funny idea of comparing the BULL with the pups. I have been using the Bullet (initially standard (1987) then Superstar (1990), later electra 4s and now thunderbird. I did give a try to the avaenger too. OK for city but somehow you do not get the “feel” of reliability and ruggedness associated with the long distance cruisers. I would say that the Avanger is for wannabe cruisers. I did Delhi- Tanakpur- Champawat- Pithoragarh- Narainswami Ashram, cruising upto 12000 ft on the Bullet 4 S… Bad roads or at times almost no roads but the bike handled superble. I am sure Thunderbird will be even better. But I have strom apprehensions for the avenger. \
)
But I will still say it is a good stepping stone for the wannabe cruisers to get on the real Cruisers. (Am waiting to get on the Harleyt
Anaswar responded on 03 Nov 2010 at 10:48 am #
Guys, I own an avenger 180 that is 4 years old. Like Ajit said, the engine is’nt as long lasting as the bullets unless you take care of it like a baby! But the looks are really sexy and they make heads turn where ever they go and it gives an overall mileage of 47 kmpl and thunderbird returns a healthy 41 kmpl which is good for a bike of that size and power..
But the only thing, in my point of view, missing in avenger is a thumpy torquey engine!!
Riaz responded on 09 Nov 2010 at 1:14 am #
which one is looking good between Bullet Classic 350 and Thunderbird
Anaswar responded on 26 Nov 2010 at 9:55 pm #
no doubt it is the classic 350 dude!
Viraj responded on 01 Dec 2010 at 12:50 am #
WORST COMPARISION!!! SEEMS THE AUTHOR IS BIASED….
Bike lover responded on 05 Dec 2010 at 3:53 am #
I don’t know about avenger but yes i want to make some correction in ROYAL ENFIELD “Thunder Bird” Top speed 130 kmph, Mileage 40+ depends how u drive you’r machine, its a beast and yes last but not the least LOOKS ha ha ha,,you will come to know when you see both bikes standing one to next trust me no comparison in this one is BEAST “TBTS”
Raviraj responded on 05 Dec 2010 at 12:52 pm #
Is 1,10,000 road price justified for a RE - TBTS? Please comment..
Thunderseeker responded on 10 Dec 2010 at 1:00 pm #
Hi,
I recently bought a 2003 Thunderbird..
Had to leave it in the garage for a few days for some checks and service etc, but now the bull is all in its awesome glory….
Dunno why this guy talks about heavy weight….I dont think its heavy….I get a mileage of about 40 Kmpl….dunno who told this guy that its 25….
Avenger is a good bike, but personally, Nothing beats the thump and the feel of the Thunderbird…..Love it
Raviraj responded on 11 Dec 2010 at 8:46 am #
I am planning to buy Royal Enfield Thunderbird TwinSpark but I would seriously like to know how much does one spend on the maintenance of the bike and is it a frequent visitor of the workshop. Also is the thunderbird twin spark.. heavy on pocket when it comes to maintenance.. See I dont mind initial the investment that I have to make to buy the TBTS but what I think that it should prove a value for that money tha I have paid kind of proposition. It should be trouble free… just like any hero honda Splendor(even though cheapest..) would be… Is it really worth to buy … a TBTS… Bike Enthusiats… Please do reply and clear the confusion of a guy who is new to the Royal Enfield territory… although I have owned and ridden a Pulsar 180 DTSi for five years but now I am planning to go something bigger and better… Please do comment…!!!! Thax.. anywayz….
awani responded on 13 Dec 2010 at 1:31 pm #
guys m totally confused btw thunderbird adn avenger plz reply….
param responded on 15 Dec 2010 at 5:20 am #
please do not compare tbts with other bikes. for record now the twinspart tbts gives mileage of 45-50 in city condition and moreover when u ride tb u r the king. and all people will look at your beast no matter the person on pedestrian to the one who is riding his car.
pankaj choudhary responded on 16 Dec 2010 at 1:13 pm #
Hi,
Can any one tell me maintenance of tbts, m going to buy on 1 jan of 2011, but i ma totly cnfused, some tell me that tbts have lost of maintaenace which puts loads on ur pocket, m drving pulsar 200 from last 2 yrs
deepu responded on 23 Dec 2010 at 1:39 am #
heard tat avenger’s performance sucks after 10k kms
Baba responded on 25 Dec 2010 at 8:25 am #
If u look for a long run TB will be cheaper and i completly agree with Param ur the KING in TB please please guys go for Tb it rocks….:)
Baba responded on 25 Dec 2010 at 8:38 am #
not even 10k km…… its befor that
sam responded on 29 Dec 2010 at 8:38 am #
Hii to all my friends, let me tell you one thing here . its true we cant compare Thunder bird with Avenger , as thunder bird has more power than Avenger , but in case of value for money Avenger is best as we get it in the price 75,000/- but thunder bird , 1.3Lk.. its up to u whether to choose thunder bird or Avenger , but guys if u want to purchase any Bajaj bike then its the No-1 in comparison with all other bajaj bikes and if u want to purchase a more power bike then go for thunder bird , every vehicle need some maintainace , whether its a car or a bike , so be ready to maintain , a simple advice i can give if u r ready to enjoy the bike for a short period with a cruise style and low maintainace then go for avenger , but if u want a bike for a long time like more than 5-10 years, and if ur pocket can afford a high value bike then go for TB …..mileage is a same in both the bike the thing is that how u ride and maintain ur bike .Always try to take it as a member of ur family it ll take care of urs in the road .
Yogesh responded on 05 Jan 2011 at 5:00 am #
Hi,
Yesterday I bought Avenger 220 at Bangalore for 83668 Rs.(On road price)without windshield. Its really awesome, Life never sucks,Lifestyle may sucks…
see both are good but Avenger is economic. Riding that bike will give you a lot pleasure after doing hectic IT job of 10 hrs.
Regarding looks see the size of rear wheel its thick which look very strong & awesome. Its more like Harley Davidson Bikes which is one of the main thing contribute in giving it a good look .Anyway don’t think to much just go for it.
rakesh responded on 06 Jan 2011 at 4:45 am #
Regarding looks see the size of rear wheel its thick which look very strong & awesome. Its more like Harley Davidson Bikes which is one of the main thing contribute in giving it a good look .Anyway don’t think to much just go for it.
rakesh responded on 06 Jan 2011 at 4:53 am #
Hi guys,
I have a 2005 model from west bengal, in perfectly good condition.
Those who are raising voice for the thunderbird one kind advice to them - PLEASE ACCEPT THE TRUTH AND HAVE A SECOND CRITICAL LOOK ON ANY OF THE RED COLOURED MODEL. There is no match for comfort, looks, economy, style, smoothness and power - this bike has!
sxsxc responded on 20 Jan 2011 at 7:31 am #
Author Sucks ………
kailas p s responded on 22 Jan 2011 at 6:16 am #
hey…always the thunderbird rocks…… dnt ever make such comparison because both are of different nature. ALWAYS THE RE THUNDERBIRD IS THE KING OF THE ROAD
honey responded on 28 Jan 2011 at 2:51 pm #
can anyone guide me wt kind of new implimentation has done with thunderbird twin spark in 2011
Shiva Rangan responded on 30 Jan 2011 at 2:37 am #
What would be the on road price of Royal Enfield Thunderbird Twinspark in Delhi?
Thanks in advance.
sean responded on 02 Feb 2011 at 5:28 pm #
I have been seriously considering buying either the 220 cc Avenger or the Thunderbird. From all the reviews I have seen (on the websites and from people who drive both bikes, I feel this review given above is very accurate. Bullets have a huge fan base due to the length of time it has been in market, however all bullet fans tell me that much more care (and knowledge of parts) needs to be taken for their bikes and they tend to have much more issues with the bike even in the first 3 years (electrical and mechanical issues) +ve s being the bike will last forever and the loud noise (which actually is not for everyone). When it comes to acceleration the Avenger easily out strips the Thunderbird and that too on an 180 cc not 220 cc. It is true there are only 2 offical service centres for avenger in bangalore but the service is very good, and you will not find many problems with the avenger apart from changing the clutch wire after 3 yrs and shifting to neutral is a common problem. Gas mileage is quite low 25km/ litre is a more realistic opinion. After placing the order for a Thunderbird you will most probably be waiting for half a year or more to get your bike where as you can easily get an avenger in 1 month + the price of a thunderbird is 1L 7K vs avenger 70K. Avenger 220 also has 19.3@8400 hp vs the comparison above and tourque is 17.5@7000 rpm. Comfort and long rides goes to avenger based on handle position and low riding position however pillion would not be very comfortable especially off road-> Based on what I have analysed and not on emotional quota I would say Avenger is a better buy in terms of price, maintenance for first 3/4 years, performance, and spare part availability.
maveric87 responded on 04 Feb 2011 at 4:09 pm #
Guys
I own a 2007 avenger ( done up in custom matte black ) , she had K&N air filters (no more ) and i’ve done close to 35k Kms . A friend of mine recently brought a 2005 Thunderbird . After having ridden both the bikes i couldnt agree more with the article.
Although i’m in love with the Enfield , the Avenger delivers when required . Please understand the Price difference and the Target Sement.
I aspire to go in for a bigger bike a 1000 cc plus by next year (an enfield is always something i wanted but wont now) because the avenger is more practical. If you love classic bikes and love the lineage go in for the thumper ( for the sound , which i love). But for riders who want all of the above Avenger it is gentlemen.
A parting thought
Barks are not better than Bites .
Respect the riders and the machines
Happy Riding Folks
Amit responded on 25 Feb 2011 at 3:55 am #
Hi Guys,
Lots of good reviews, i recently booked a Thunderbird Twinspark and i was afraid of the Enfiwld bcos of the weight and over and above that i have a SLIPDISC and if the bike falls on me i will never rise again on my feet. When i went to the showroom in Bangalore and sat on the Thunderbird and tried it move it, it was like hot knife thru butter, i did not feel any weight and it moved very easily, after that i took a rest ride and as used to my Honda Unicorn of short gear change i was hitting the between position i.e. neutral after every gear. When i booked after test drive i was given a waiting period of 6-8 months i was heart broken. But it sparked me a new idea(which is like a virus and will overpower you) i exchange my Honda Unicorn(amazing bike) with a second hand 2006 Thunderbird.
I had done a test ride on both Thunderbird and Avenger 220CC with kickstart(dont’ know what happens if battery is down) as the dealer had both for sale. After much contemplation i decided on the Thunderbird..as the dealer quotes “Its an Asset Sir, you can even sell it for a higher price and even you son can ride it”. The riding experience is totally different. In Avenger i felt like “Riding a Machine” and in Thunderbird i felt like “Riding an animal” you can feel in your whole body when u ride a Thunderbird.
It always depends on what you priority is when you are riding and of course that changes from time to time. For me when ride my Thunderbird i feel i on a BULL raging and running. I like that feeling but many might not. People do give looks and many give way to me.
Enjoy the Thump and Feel that you are really riding something and in true sense.
Rgds
Amit
sanat basaiawmoit responded on 25 Feb 2011 at 5:38 am #
Hello People !
I’m also planning to buy Avenger 220. I’ve been riding a yamaha enticer for nine years now. It seems almost all the riders here in Shillong hate to ride this sexy looking mini-harley. But me alone thinks it suits me well all round coz thatz my choice. I’ve read all the comments above and I wanted to tell you guys. At the end of the day itz your personal choice, itz like chosing a Wife. “KUCH PAANE KE LIYE KUCH KHONA PARTA HAI”. There’s always a PLUS and a MINUS, no one can escape this. Also it depends on your pocket how heavy is it loaded with cash ! If I have the money I will straight away buy a HARLEY or a CUSTOM MADE CHOPPER and thatz again my choice no matter wat people say, I will always stick to it.
All the Best to all “Ride Well Ride Free Ride Safe” “Ride because u luv to, but never Ride to Show Off”
Ram responded on 25 Feb 2011 at 1:08 pm #
Lol you know i have a TBTS and trust me TBTS is heavy for a month of time… and latter its like play bike ull be capable of moving it any where
ya today is my TBTS Completed 1 year of stay with me and ah man i have traveled 30000km hahaha and still he is like a Cool Monster Still gets 50+ mileage
ya TB owners u can get 50+ if u drive the bike without the Chi Chi Sound, Chi Chi sound consume more petrol but power is high and without the Chi Chi Sound ull get extreme milage.. so go for it
sudarshan responded on 26 Feb 2011 at 5:58 am #
While riding thunderbird u feel proud and its thump conforms with ur heart beat.
BTW pl. stop comparing a bull with a timid goat.
Sagar responded on 21 Mar 2011 at 4:47 am #
Hi guys !
Im planning to buy Thunderbird TS. But the booking time in bangalore is terrible.I was told that it will take 5 months for delivery.Is this the case in all showrooms?
Because of this , im considering to go with Avenger.Any suggestions?
Ujjal responded on 22 Mar 2011 at 2:03 pm #
Hi All,
After reading lots of tussle between Avenger and TBTS, I want tell you one thing that if there was any provision to mount TBTS engine in Avenger then I would go for that because the only point that Avenger wins on TBTS that the riding comfort. I can say this because I have both the bikes in my house (TBTS for my brother and Avenger200 for me).
And one last word, if you can put your hand deep into your pocket then go for TBTS else go for Avenger.
akash deep choudhary responded on 03 Apr 2011 at 2:00 pm #
hey guys, i own a thunderbird myself and my good friend has an avenger 220, so i have driven enough miles on both… i speak of city driving on the renowned roads of chandigarh…
i feel the avenger looks amazing, but the looks are not original, its like a copy of Triumph Thunderbird 1600, so no credit to bajaj for that… the thunderbird looks exceptionally good and macho, and as i have removed the backrest, it looks agile, ready to burn some tarmac…
the avenger has a good acceleration, thanks to the light weight, but the 350cc block on the TB churns out so much power, nothing beats it… also, i tried churning out both the bikes on one specific track with red line gear shifts, and the TB gets past 110kph in seconds, while the avenger seemed compromised thanks to the missing 130cc…
i even jumped an 8-10 inch divider with my thunderbird, but couldnt do the same with the avenger, and its wide rear tire burnt rubber in vain…
while the seating of avenger is greatly more comfortable than the TB for cruising, yet, in city driving, the front placing of the gears and foot brakes in avenger feel uncomfortable when u have to step on the road at a red light etc… and thats what i felt in CHANDIGARH!! cant imagine it with other cities like my hometown gurgaon…
also, the handling and control is better in thunderbird because of the lesser angle of the front axis with the body…
and those who love the thump may get a goldy silencer implanted into the TB (which i saw someone had also tried doing with an avenger here and made a joke of the bike)… and those who dont want too much thump, go for the stock silencer, its not too loud…
on the fuel average discussuin, i would like to state, my TB gives me 48-52kmpl regularly (checked it thrice, riding below 3000rpm) and it amazes my bullet owning friends, who get around 35kmpl… no comments on the avenger as i did never personally check its average…
and for the head turning capability, i would definitely say, the thunderbird spins every head when u roar past them, the avenger never did…
for concluding my midnight report (its past 12 now) on this vague comparison between the beauty and the beast, i would like to quote what is printed on my plate
“da difference between this beast and your lil’ toys;
separates the REAL MEN from the BOYS…”
take care, ride safe…
Moses responded on 04 Apr 2011 at 1:04 am #
Whoever compared the bikes rides the “Avenger” for sure. The facts are wrong, the twin spark deliver 42 kmpl on road and is 150cc more than the avenger.. The Thunderbird is the most awesome bike for Indian roads
abhijeet responded on 06 Apr 2011 at 10:07 am #
Bajaj Avenger is a good bike for those whos height is below 5 feet 7 inch.Another aspect, new Avenger has 220 cc (Avenger 220 DTS-i) engine which is oil-cooled type this means you need to put oil in the radiator.I am not sure about the radiator quality as I seen many P200 and P220 oil leaks.
Another thing, the Avenger 220 DTS-i has the same engine of P220 bike and due to the radiator it consumes more petrol even it stops at the signals.
No comments about the mileage of Avenger but it is for sure that the RE TBTS returns 38 to 40 KMPL, again depends upon the rider.
Now about the reliability of both the bikes,
Avenger is previously known as Eliminator with 175cc engine, how many of us seen the Eliminator on road on today’s date? the answer is simple, once in a month if you are living in metros, otherwise no, not at all!
About Royal Enfield reliability, it is not just love of the people commented above the reliability of any bullet bike.The RE stands for generations, one of my friend is using his dads bullet 350 which was purchased in 1982.Many of us see the old bulls across the city every day.
Here is a little calculation:
Mileage of Avenger: 35 to 40kmpl (as website owner said and I am considering 220cc Avenger)
Mileage of Thunderbird: 40kmpl for sure (search it on internet and read the owners reviews)
Avenger engine: 220cc (new Avenger )
TBTS engine: 350cc
Avenger life: 10 years
TBTS life: more than 20 years
Avenger 220cc cost:Approx 90,000
TBTS cost: 1,20,000
The TBTS cost 30,000 to 35,000 more than the new Avenger 220cc but you will get more power, more mileage (in terms of engine power and mileage ratio),reliability as many bullet owners often went to leh and ladakh,more power and one most impotent aspect, for bullet you dont need a pro-biking mechanic to solve your bike problem.
asdsad responded on 07 Apr 2011 at 9:04 am #
How do people like you still have a job?! What a horrible review.
nishant responded on 09 Apr 2011 at 3:12 am #
hi everybody, my email : nishant.mech24@gmail.com
Such a bad comparision i have never seen, first of all milage of thunder bird is 45 km on road, i have done alot of research.
it is costly but how many have seen a avenger 5 yr old in condition …
but u can easily use a enfield for 10 years without any major maintenance cost…… minor things can go on as u r using a machine…
Ithink if u r going to buy a cruser then u should buy a thunder bird its atrue value for money. if u r going just for the modern looks then buy a avenger…..becaus u have to impress a girl…the girl will also go after 3 years & avenger also…. but the bird will always fly with u….
but guys thunder bird will always with u when ur girlfriend will become old then also…..
I AM A MECHANICAL ENGINEER U CAN TRUST ME DEAR!!!
my email : nishant.mech24@gmail.com
nishant responded on 09 Apr 2011 at 3:22 am #
hi ,
i want to say one more thing, who so ever hase written such a stupid review…
Could be a bajaj avenger marketing agent.
Bajaj company employee…
could not have guts to buy & drive thunder bird
or a stupid man…….
Ratanlal responded on 18 Apr 2011 at 10:38 pm #
Thunderbird i gr8.but maintainance is high than avenger.
TBTS responded on 28 Apr 2011 at 6:52 am #
Thunderbird is best.
Can use upto20+ years because of Royal Enfield’s Spare parts interchangeabilty
Mack responded on 05 May 2011 at 5:04 pm #
what a piece of shit this review is!!!!!
comparing a pug (Avenger) with a GREAT DANE (RE TBTS)!!!!!!
Ashay responded on 06 May 2011 at 7:35 am #
Hi All,
Here one thing i can see is, TBTS riders are having ego of their machines. They treat other bikers and bikes as crap. Why this? I owe both these bikes(TBTS-2009 Avenger 220-2010), but my personal suggestion is Avenger 220. My TBTS is having lots of maintainance issues. Avenger is going smooth.
Milegae
Avenger 220 40-45 kmpl
TBTS 38 -42
Acceleration : Avenger Wins
Torque: My TBTS wins.(I love it)
Breaking: Avenger 220(Front disk only, rear is bad)
Thats it
Ashay responded on 06 May 2011 at 7:36 am #
one more thing
Avenger 81000
TBTS 1.3 l
Waiting
Avenger 220 same day
TBTS 7 monts & 4 days
Anand Kerala responded on 08 May 2011 at 5:39 am #
Hai guys,
Saw the reviews from all parts… But I don’t think its good to compare a vehicle from Royal enfield family with Bajaj.. Two of them have their own class.. I think Every bullet is Royal and an asset….
I just brought one Thunderbird Twin Spark, on 06.05.2011, just driven 100 Kms.. But its amazing.. I feel the others who watches me on the bike like the students stands up and wishes their teachers… I am proud to own..
I havn’t either driven a tbt or avenger before.. But I owned a pulsur ( 2002 - 150 Kick start- 5 gear down), it was good for that time, but when competitors came I felt something bad…
I will compare a RE - TBT and Avenger , Just like a Shaving set, which changes its blade and uses for a life time …. and a use and throw shaving set…
I don’t think Avenger is a competent to TBT..!!!!
Ashay responded on 09 May 2011 at 2:20 am #
@ Above,
Only because of RE is heritage????
Or anything special?
Ashay responded on 09 May 2011 at 2:22 am #
Common yaar, RE guys, come out of your world, I also owe an RE TBTS but i will be happy to accept the truth that, bike is a bike. You hav to compare it based on its performance, not on manufacturer.
H Venkatesan responded on 09 May 2011 at 8:14 am #
It seems the author is very biased and he had never ridden a ThunderBird. I have never rode a Avenger , but can speak from the experince of my close firend having an Avenger, and from nuemerous street fights in which my ThunderBird and many Avengers involved. First the Author did the mistake of comparing two different class motorcycles. My friend claim that his Avenger engine is very cool even after riding 350 Kms continiously, thanks to the oil cooled system. But I have always ridden my Beast continiously for 700KM on every return trip from Kanyakumari to Bangalore non-stop. I too does not feel the engine is very hot. The nemerous Avengeres and Yamaha Fzes I have chased in street fights in Bangalore outer ring road seems to have a good pickup till 60Kmph, but once the point is reached the Beast mulls over them. I have ridden my Bull in torrential thunder stroming rain for hundreds of kilometers many times with out any balancing issues. People who have entered the stagnet water on the road in excess of 90Kmph will know what I am saying. I have touched speed of 130 kmph (my tacho showed, real speed may be around 120-125) consitently and have maintaned it for kilometers, many a times. I doubt an Avenger can do this. ThunderBird delivers a conistent torque thought the entiere RMP range, same cannot be said for Avenger. Look at the spec of Avenger and see at what RPM it delivers the peak power. As somebody has pointed out earlier Avenger is for somebody who want to tryout a cruiser. Though I think evey now and then, there room for improvement in Thunderbird, I cant imagine any Indian motorcycle (ofcourse we have big brother 500cc) has the cababilities to dare at ThunderBird. ThunderBird is a Beast, Avenger is a dometicated animal.
royal roar responded on 15 May 2011 at 1:20 pm #
what a shit review is dat…hw d hell u can compare a mere avenger wid a tbts….dat review writer is such a loser that he cant even distinguis in between a amateur bajaj engine and a mighty muscular royal enfield…regardin mileage am gettin 40-45……and before commentin abt power come in the roads ..i ll show wat a thunderbird is!!
Subu responded on 26 May 2011 at 5:27 pm #
I think I do not want to Critisize the Review or I do not want to explain about the difference between a TBT and DTSi as its like reviewing a 800 with Humvee
The OnROad Price of Bullet ThunderBird in Bangalore is 121,000. They are asking atleast 6 months time to deliver th vehicle. But this is not true in the case of other places.
In my Home town, the price is 115,000 and they are ready to deliver the Bike immediately.
Koli responded on 27 May 2011 at 3:55 pm #
Hello all…..
Well after reading the review n responses, i can say for sure tht riding a TBTS makes you ’self obsessed’ n ‘cocky’…. I mean your strongest points are ‘It’s from RE’ n ‘It is 130cc more’! You guys are speaking like you live on 6 lane highways and drive 300km everyday!!
I really appreciate the person for a detailed review of the two bikes and i blv tht the review is not for oldies who have relished on TBTS but for ppl like me n many oders who think it’s time for cruisers! And plz stop yellin jus coz the poor guy got the mileage horribly wrong
K here are my reasons / conditions, Would really appreciate help from all you guys
And i am the self-obsessed kind 
- Am 21, tall (6′3”) n lean, been getting slight back-aches n leg cramps wid my old pulsar 150, soo wanna ride sumthin more comfortable!!
- 90,000 or 1,20,000 is not a big issue, i think i can push
- took test ride for both, not used to either, but think i can handle both in time!
- Will b doin city riding mostly and ofcourse loooooong trips in weekends
- I really DO NOT wanna pay for anything apart from petrol n regular 3 month checkup for atleast 2-3 years (Plz tell how much does this checkup cost for each!)
- And yes i tend to get possessive of bike, cant keep her for servicing for more than a day! (I’ll b in Bangalore)
- I am aware that once you go RE you dont go back
Lookin forward for some help
Thanq
VENU responded on 29 May 2011 at 10:33 am #
I am 6 feet tall and slim. Planning to buy avgr. It is low hieghted bike. Does It look good when I will be riding.
Abhijeet responded on 31 May 2011 at 3:24 pm #
Dear Author,
I am sorry to say but your comparison has not displayed more important features. I think you are more driven by the economy factor. TB is an all in all different segment and can’t be compared or rather let me say should not be compared.
Before giving reviews and or making comparison, please drive the vehicles and feel the actual substance rather pulling up information from googling.
Sorry to be rude, but have your basics RIGHT.
Thanks
Abhijeet
Low Rider responded on 04 Jun 2011 at 8:26 am #
@ Venu
At 6 feet… an avenger would look very tiny with you on top. A T-Bird would be better. I’m 5′8 and I use a standard 350cc and planning to get a T-Bird soon.
Oh and yes I would still go for a T-Bird… heck I would choose a Rajdhoot or an RX 100 over an Avenger. Why???? Cause it sucks……
Suyash Dixit responded on 07 Jun 2011 at 2:52 am #
Guys Bullshit Review. I am an engineer. Avenger…. kids play with it… TBTS… big boys play with it. Bajaj think they can beat TBTS with pulsar engine in Avenger. hehehehehehehehe
D guy giving this review is really foolish!
Believe me TBTS rocks!! In every aspect other then cost.
Ashay responded on 10 Jun 2011 at 7:25 am #
RETB is having only name. No performance.
Amit responded on 13 Jun 2011 at 10:43 am #
I got a RE TB 2003 model.
Cons:
It’s heavy.
mileage’s not that great (avg 30-35 kmpl).
Pillion seater always complains, how painful its with the shocker’s (planning to upgrade to endurance gas shockers).
worst: petrol leak from the tank cover(replaced the rubber so many times no help.)
No electric start: Pain in a** in traffic.
Pros:
when you start the bike and ride it, u forget all the pain it’s been giving you. Sound is awesome (goldy silencer).
No filthy sounds like bajaj bikes do after 4-5 years. (and this beast is now almost 8 yrs old)
Summing up in a single line:
Men ride thunderbird … boys ride avenger.
I_LIKE_CAKE responded on 14 Jun 2011 at 12:41 pm #
ppl,
cost = afforadable
look = sexy
mileage=decent
performance=v good
technology=not questionable
rating 4.5/5 rather TB= 5/5
.5 Big Diff ?
Avenger man dats all !!
I_LIKE_CAKE responded on 14 Jun 2011 at 12:47 pm #
Review for the doodes (Only for the doodes)
Look= sexy
Mileage=good
cost=affordable
efficiency=not bad
Stylish=very much
performance=good
acceleration=good!
== Avenger 220c
Need more ?
And me gonna get the bike in a span of 4 days
Cocktail wine red !
Avenger \m/
Matt responded on 14 Jun 2011 at 4:45 pm #
I own a Thunderbird. Brought it back in 09′, still packs quite a punch, enough to make heads turn. However the Thunder is for the true rider. Its the definition of being an Indian Biker. A real badass if i must say. Comparing an avenger to this well, not really worth the effort. Before i got this i was gonna go for the avenger. But several owners warned about the lack of spares and delay and bad services, i decided to go with the thumper. Sure its got its own fair share of problems, but that’s feeling you get when you ride off with the engine roaring beneath you is just otherworldly. An avenger really don’t fit the cruiser category imo, cause its powered by a pulsar’s engine. I mean come on how lame is that? You don’t feel the “life” in it. The only differences are the looks and seating.
sumit responded on 17 Jun 2011 at 2:17 am #
well people i own avenger 200 2010 model. on an average i ride atleast 120 km per day…..i ride it from 300 km to 500km one way. i dont find that it is less powerfull. though i personally love enfiled (but not thunderbird). And i ride avenger solo to the remotest of roads and never troubled me in nycase. The best part is the tyres i had a flat tyre once in 21000 kms. These bikes are made for cruising and not city driving so take out them to the longdrives on highways thats wat they r good at..the more u ride them in cruising mode the better will be their perfomance.
and for people who thinks avenger is any less come out on highway both will ride neck to neck. enfileds cannot pass the avengers on highways.
amit responded on 23 Jun 2011 at 9:08 am #
thunderbird is the lion and evenger is the pussy cat lol
no comparison thudnerbird is the god of roads
saurabh responded on 01 Jul 2011 at 5:45 am #
Avenger : Is this bike still in production, Looking at the condition i thought this would be discontinued long back. What a crap it is….. I have booked TB last week, will be delivered to me in 3 months, price is 1.3 lakhs on road at Bangalore.
Avenger can be liked by only those who cant afford Bullet, Its as simple as that.
Murali responded on 03 Jul 2011 at 11:08 am #
Guys , this is such a long review which has no meaning at all . Waste of time comparing with two different Classes. Neither we can call Avenger as a pug nor Thunderbird a Lion . Stop comparing these two different classes and select the one which suits your requirement .
prakash responded on 06 Jul 2011 at 11:33 am #
HI TO EVERYONE..
I ‘M A TBTS USER.and my close frnd is having avenger 220, so i have driven some kms on both…
i speak of city driving on the roads of chennai…
i feel the avenger looks amazing,
but the looks are not original,
its like a copy of Triumph Thunderbird 1600,
so no credit to bajaj for that…
the thunderbird looks exceptionally good
and
the avenger has a good acceleration,
thanks to the light weight(when i moved a little, its going like a butter in mouth),
but the 350cc gives u so much power, nothing beats it…
also, i tried burn out both the bikes on one specific track with red line gear shifts,
and the TBTS gets past 110kph in seconds,
while the avenger seemed compromised thanks to the missing 130cc…
while the seating of avenger is greatly more comfortable than the TBTS for cruising,
yet, in city driving, the front placing of the gears and foot brakes in avenger feel uncomfortable
when u have to step on the road at a red light etc… and
thats what i felt in CHENNAI!!
also, the handling and control is better in thunderbird because of the lesser angle of the front axis with the body…
and those who love the thump may get a goldy silencer implanted into the TB (which i saw someone had also tried doing with an avenger here and made a joke of the bike)… and those who dont want too much thump, go for the stock silencer, its not too loud…
on the fuel average discussuin, i would like to state, my TB gives me 48-52kmpl regularly (checked it thrice, riding below 3000rpm) and it amazes my bullet owning friends, who get around 35kmpl… no comments on the avenger as i did never personally check its average…
and for the head turning capability, i would definitely say, the thunderbird spins every head when u roar past them, the avenger never did…
for concluding my midnight report (its past 12 now) on this vague comparison between the beauty and the beast, i would like to quote what is printed on my plate
“da difference between this beast and your lil’ toys;
separates the REAL MEN from the BOYS…”
FRNDS PLS DON’T COMPARE METAL GUNS WITH PLASTIC(TOY) GUNS
take care, ride safe…
Asheesh responded on 07 Jul 2011 at 8:36 pm #
hi Guys..
first of all thanks to the author and all those who posted their comments..u bet I read each and every comment…
I jut booked a TB and came to this page to read the reviews…I hav been fascinated by TB for yrs and finally got it booked at the age pf 48..so TB is more of a choice for me which also fits to my somewhat strecthed budget..
Initially i was scared by the weight but when took the test drive, the ride was smooth..they hav also put a lever so that u can put the beast to stand which is gd for a small person like me 5.5…
i hav seen avengers on the street and one thing i can say that after few yrs it looks in bad shape…howevr the opposite holds for TB..
the author may nt br right in comapring the two but its gd to bring such an article as we were able to compare our views o both the bikes…ys the bias seems 2 b in favor of Bajaj, whih the author shld justify by writing his ow comments..
anyway , i think TB shld give me gd ride and i hope my son wll also be able to drive it…
rest asured
urs
ash.
retb responded on 14 Jul 2011 at 3:06 pm #
guyz i’ll b bukin my tbts in 2 weeks time…
the waiting period is 1 week for black nd silver and hand to hand delivery in case of red colour…
it iz gonna cost around 1.12 lks wid 48k min down payment…
now i need help as if it will suit me or not:
age: 17
height: 6 feet
weight: around 80 kg
also “”i m a sikh boy…”"
plz help me…
also plz what is the maintenance cost on a monthly basis…
nywayz thnx in advance…
the1 responded on 15 Jul 2011 at 4:26 pm #
200ke gand me 350 ka lawda. Abe kutte ke pille ko bubar sher se jod raha hai,gand fat jayegi pille ki .
himanshu responded on 28 Jul 2011 at 6:55 am #
hi guys,
I owned bjaj 220 with the windshield (plz note). Coz it makes a difference in many aspects. It looks cool…on every red light when u stop ppl start staring at u……N way u will b sitting on it feels like a king of the road. Comfortable position of the seat n brakes along with the windsheild you can imagine urself driving a car….thats all about the style…..If you are standing in the front row on a red light…as soon as it turn green n u will throttle ……nobody can catch u up..not even in a car…i can bet on that…soon you will realize u are all alone by looking in your rear mirror……thats about the power it gives 2 u…..it costs me less than 80000 rs on road….guys if you have more money then go for Harley (available in India now)….I have never checked its mileage coz b4 buying it i was planning for a car. I have drived this machine for almost 16 hrs of course with the pit stops and next day it was like everyday…u can imagine about the comfort now….I have started my journey from chandigarh to JP cement plant ( bagha in distt solan h.p., one of the asia’s biggest plant at the top of hills), from there to shimla to delhi…almost 800 kms with all types of road conditions….all this you will get with an Avenger, now bad things….I have to take extra care at the speed breakers coz it does touch down, In the night have problems with windsheild…On the sharp turns on the hills you can feel your foot touching down to the ground..rear seat not well cushioned (my g.f. does complain)…front tyre is too far so have to stop a distance from vehicles standing in the front in traffic (have to take extra care), to start the engine have to lean down to find the key hole….(i do’t know the reason behind this kind of style the company has chosen). .The name Avenger does not sound that much as like “Eliminator”. You have to look for Service stations in your city.
Now guys I have’t rode a THUNDERBIRD yet..so does’t want to comment on that….only thing i want to say …..nobody cares how much sound you create when you are passing through the streets or you standing in the traffic …..ask your g.f. as well wts her opinion about the noise…… so if u want to feel like GOD …then go for avenger n want to be a kind of jatt….(bullet doodhwala) then go for whatever u want……….:)
sumit singh responded on 30 Jul 2011 at 4:41 am #
RE -TBTS for man
and avenger is for kids
partha responded on 31 Jul 2011 at 6:53 am #
hi guys,
I am 6.3 ft and a little fatty.
What should I go for?
TB or Avenger
Lookin for ur Positive Feedback
Thanx in Advance frnds
partha.bht@rediffmail.com
Tabraiz responded on 07 Aug 2011 at 3:20 am #
Hi Guys,
No Matter How High A Bird Flies, But It Can Never Reach The Orbit Where Eagles Orbit. And that Eagle Is ROYAL ENFIELD.
Those guys who are bother ’bout mileage & maintainance.. please don’t but a ENFIELD better go for a Bajaj CT 100 or H Honda Splendor, belive me they got better milage with almost no maintainance..
And those who wants to rule roads ENFIELD is there for you!!
Ther’s no comparission of ENFIELD.. They call it BULLET..!!
ROYAL ENFIELDS RULES!! (I own both Pulsar & Bullet.)
Rememba the commercial of Pulsar saying a boy is born, BULLET is Daddy of that baby boy..!!!
anuj responded on 11 Aug 2011 at 8:53 am #
hey,
whats the average and price of both the bikes.
Eugine Costro responded on 24 Aug 2011 at 5:14 am #
Hey guys your comparisons are very funny except who have avengers. Hey know one thing both are very very different kind bikes. THE AVENGER is very best in it’s class. and the THUNDER BIRD is very best in it’s class. hey i ask one thing how do you can compare a 220cc bike to a 350cc bike. you compare your THUNDER BIRD with the same cc powered bike. ABE agjd line
Joseph PK responded on 30 Aug 2011 at 4:41 am #
Have been riding bikes for close to 16 years now.My first bike was a Suzuki Samurai and crashed it around for 9 years …the bike had serious stability during hard braking
, ever since i’m riding a Honda Unicorn for close to 7 years ..pretty good bike…excellent engine…great stability…comfortable riding posture…it’s the best bike to ride in city…and the only competition is from Pulsar 150cc of course…had many classic jousts with them…won some and lost some ;)…
now i feel i’ve outgrown the Unicorn too…so got my friend whose been riding a Bullet for ages and took test rides on Classic 350 and TBTS…my heart said go for the Classic but my soul said go for the TBTS and that’s it…booked the TBTS…Waiting with bated breath for the 6 months cooling period to get over…
One of my neighbor’s own an Avenger …looks cool too…but somehow it doesn’t evoke the same feeling which i get, when i longingly gaze at the proud Thunderbird owners…thumping down the road.
…and in the meantime ,my ever reliable Unicorn keeps me good company…and even when my TBTS comes i’m still gonna keep my loyal Unicorn too…coz the memories we share are too deep…hope to create my own moments with my future Thunderbird too !!!
Arnab responded on 05 Sep 2011 at 6:20 am #
I guess this is the worst comparison ever i checked.
Jigsaw responded on 05 Sep 2011 at 2:24 pm #
I cant believe that this thread is on from May 2010…. ( seems more like a blood feud between the clans… hehehe)
neways guys…. I have been riding an avenger 200 (dec 2007 model)… have clocked more than 25000 kms in the last 18 months. Do long rides quite frequently and just FYI i ride solo most of the time….
One of my real good friends owns a T’bird avl. I have ridden both the bikes (and have spent days in the garage getting for the both the bikes repaired)… so i can assure you that this is one the most unbiased opinion u can get…
The T’bird rides like a beauty… the sound the vibrations, the power, the feel… incomparable…. but there is a small issue…. bcus of the height and sound and the power… i tend to look down on every body else as long as im on the T’bird..
The avenger might not compare to T’bird on power… but the comfort level in an avenger is unmatched…i feel so comfortable in an avenger i just dont feel like pulling the throttle too much… plus on rides i tend to sleep at night most of the time on my avenger and am not too stiff in the morn. can still ride for another 400kms the next day
The T’bird is very good on most of the terrains… excellent for off roading.. imo
An avenger will handle most of the terrains as long as you are considerate…. an avenger can handle wet roads ( once even an oil spill) with ease thanks to the rear tyre.
Im a 6′5 tall guy… and am sort of chubby ;)… look wise a stock TB looked better on me than a stock avenger…. (got extended handles diamond guard and an indore silencer on my avenger)… now i look good on my avenger….
for maintenence and cost… would you care to count how much u spend on ur girl or how much cost u had to incurr on ur kids food … if u do pls take the bus…. bikes are not invented for u
for the people who say that bajaj engine die after 5 - 10 years… u are mistaken… can u tell me if u have ever met bajaj rider who cares for his bike as an RE rider does…. i have and that is why i say u r wrong… (one person i know of owns an avenger 180 which is a 2004 model - one without a self and that baby is shining hard and riding strong)
But for an RE bikes staying alive for so long…. most of the credit also goes to the RE riders… man!!! u guys are good at taking care of ur bikes…. all of u really inspire me…. honest…
I would say my friends Tbird is awesome… she is one hell of a ride and if i would rate a T bird more than an avenger (but that doesnt change the fact that i love my avenger)..
Some thing i have always believed… an RE is like a foreign chick and bajaj is like a desi wife…. the desi wife will take all of ur bullshit and put up with ur inconsiderate behaviour as long as it can and finally when she cant deliver any more then u kick her out or sell her in this case… but at the first sign of any abuse the foreign chick will kick ur ass leave u in the middle if the road just holding on to ur balls… may be thats y bajaj riders tend to abuse their bikes…
for any one planning to choose a bike…. go the bike that u like… dont care about what others say… every bike has something good to offer…. go for what u wud want the most….
I doesnt matter what make of the bike u ride. what matters is that u ride.
To all the brothers and sisters in the wind - Ride hard, Ride Safe.
Mrinal responded on 07 Sep 2011 at 6:18 am #
thanx a lot guys…i kw kw which 1 to pik…TB it is…
Sumit responded on 10 Sep 2011 at 7:56 am #
Thunderbird is a real Lion.Iam an Additional Divisional Forest Officer in the Elite Forest Services accustomed to offroads and undulating terrains.My Thunderbird (Black TBTS) just grinds everything, no matter whatever is ahead it dispatches with disdain.I have a great passion for tough things & I own a massive hunk Bolero,I was thinking for a suitable two wheeler match & all I could think was TBTS.Bullet is an asset, its pride, its power, its passion & what not.I had a ride with pulsar, avenger, hero hondas,& the mighty Yezdi 250. Every bike has something special.avenger is smooth, easy to handle, comfortabe & stylish. But believe me folks Bullet is Bullet.It is also useless to compare 2 machines of diametrical difference.And for those who opine that Bullet is a boredome for beauties, let me say that Iam a 6 ft tall athletic man of 27 who has just completed his 2 years of paramillitary training as a probationer at Dehradun & when I ride my Bullet Thunderbird in weekends at glamorous streets all eyes not just turn but stare.
vishnu responded on 15 Sep 2011 at 3:58 am #
Man, this is a really messed up review.. Thunderbird is in a league when compared to avenger. “The Avenger is famous for its low styling and a powerful engine which passes the Thunderbird in a blink of eye” dis is a Fking funny comment.. Every one who owns a TBTS knows the pickup of the thunderbird.. Dis is the best bike for long rides. The TBTS engine is 350cc n still gives a standard 35kmpl where as the Avenger engine is just 200cc but gives just 35kmpl…
also dont compare the TBTS’s net power to the avenger.
TBTS delivers 19.5BHP at 5000RPM n Avenger delivers 17.5bhp at 8000rpm…
Please note the difference in RPMS too…
how many off us ride at 8000rpms…
This review is totally shitty n one sided…..
vishnu responded on 15 Sep 2011 at 4:01 am #
If thunderbird is the Lion, then Avenger is the hyena..
yash responded on 19 Sep 2011 at 3:40 am #
both bikes r good gives milage in 40s. Select that bike which soots u because thunderbird is slide diffecult to handel for short person
prasanna responded on 22 Sep 2011 at 5:45 am #
nw wich shuld i prefere?
Saleem` responded on 26 Sep 2011 at 8:36 am #
Dear Friends,
what a comedy ya…….. why these peoples comparing with Avenger
Thunderbird…. is like lion ya……. hi avenger guys just ride the thunderbird….you will get infinite ……..royality …. because this is
Royal Enfield ya….dont compare with thunder bird and classic 500 cc…… ok…..
Shaurya responded on 05 Oct 2011 at 3:47 pm #
Guys I own a 2010 Avenger 200, it looks better with it’s long wheelbase, but as I am 18, I was misguided by my dad and grandpa. I personally think that the Avenger is underpowered and doesn’t suit me as I’m 6′1, I would any day go for the TBTS if I had the cash.
Darkman responded on 10 Oct 2011 at 10:58 am #
This is one shit review. Let me ask you guys something ,after all things said about the Avenger, or any bajaj bikes …why in the hell are there no Bajaj motorcycle clubs ????? And why do you think there are lots of Royal Enfield Clubs all over the country ???? There is a reason that transcends beyond the technical specs don’t you think ?
CASE CLOSED !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dany responded on 13 Oct 2011 at 1:33 pm #
Jigsaw… ur review was the best and most sensible!
Pavan DG responded on 19 Oct 2011 at 11:40 am #
Guys Guys. Lots of Avenger lover and also Thunderbird lovers.
Points to be compared.
1. Engine. Av- can last for 5-6 years with no prob.
TB- Min of 10-15 years with no prob.
2. Mileage. Av- 30to40 1st few years. What after 5 yrs?
TB- Good driver will get 30 (constant) for many years.
3. Style. Av- Copied version of TB.
TB- Machoo
4. Power Av- 200CC
TB- 350CC
5. Long Rides Av- Max 500kms (With rest)
TB- Non stop 600kms (Ladak drives)
6. Finally Public attraction.
AV- Leave ya
TB- Wow
Yes i own THUNDERBIRD. I know how Royal bike is, What Royal treatment i get when i am on road and Royal is what the PPl who own it.
raj responded on 19 Oct 2011 at 3:13 pm #
guys , its jus so simple.. Dese two r different bikes wd diffrent advantages n disadvantages.. I own an avenger 220 n my dad rides the TBTS..avenger got better acceleration n power.. TBTS is kinda for d oldies.. Looks macho bt kinda for ancient ppl..gt bettr avrage dan avenger.. Its jus d name royal enfield..dats wot dey boast abt.. Apart frm dat , its shit.. One year down d line n d bullet sucks u wd its maintanance cost.. U want a cruiuser , go 4 avenger..from cost to performance..its ouplays the TBTS.. Bullet owners mite make fun of it bt d truth is bitter.. Accept it
sunil bhatt responded on 28 Oct 2011 at 12:34 am #
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Alaap responded on 04 Nov 2011 at 4:12 am #
Hi Guys,
I have been reading this thread since I decided to buy my 1st Bike (I am not counting Activa) and after the long but worthy wait I got my THUNDERBIRD…. And the thread still continues
Man, what a bike !!! Super power, Super Looks, Super Stability and Super Average for the power it generates.
I may not be the right person to comment about the Avenger for its performance but looks wise Thunderbird is a head-turner; at every signal, petrol pump, parking lots, etc, you get those envious looks.
About comparison between these two bikes, I would say it’s about the class of Enfield which Overtakes that of Bajaj, in spite of Avenger being a good looking & performing bike.
Its like comparing Naseruddin Shah with Amitabh Bachchan, both are great actors but Amitabh has a Charisma of his own !!!
AJ
SHARAD responded on 06 Nov 2011 at 2:10 am #
Dear Friendzz,
I read most of the comments and really thankzz to u all for your lovely opinion and even I was thinking to buy a good bike and was thinking to go for yamah Fz , but some of my friendzz told me for thunderbird twin spark and by reading all ur comments and i am falling in love with Thunderbird. and I finally agree and my opinion is u cannot compare apple with mango , or mango with grapes all the fruits have its on taste but we have to admit that mango is the king of the fruits so as THUNDER BIrd among all the other bikes in india. I apologies if i hurting any one’s feeling.
Jigsaw responded on 08 Nov 2011 at 4:52 am #
Darkman…
does presence of temples around the country PROVE to you that there exists a god…. no it doesnt… will it make you believe in a god for no apparent reason…. no it wont…. it just shows that there are people there who worship an idol…
temples = motorcycle clubs - do the math….
when u can find chicks to date through the internet how difficult is it to find somebody else who has the same make as your bike…
wearing the colors of a club has got nothing to do with the passion for riding.
DIESEL BOY responded on 12 Nov 2011 at 2:28 am #
can i get a second hand thunderbird at the price of an avenger 220dts-i! i had saved enough to buy an avenger! but after reading this review i think the thunderbird twin spark is much much better!!!!! it shud hav just been a little more stretched like the avenger!
Maddy responded on 18 Nov 2011 at 7:09 am #
I’m 6′3″ and fit. Will TBTS serve my height?? I’ve problem with other bikes coz handle will stuck on my knee.. Will it be easy to ride? will it look gud if I ride on it??
Waiting comments
Thanks
Mani responded on 21 Nov 2011 at 3:31 am #
Hi All:
I locked bull yesterday in Mumbai. 6 month of waiting but I am ready to do that, it’s worth.
I had Suzuki Fiero, a gr8 bike..but the day I saw TB, I almost fell in love.
You can’t compare Bullet with other.
Alaap responded on 25 Nov 2011 at 1:36 am #
Hi Maddy,
For your height I think The TBTS will best suit you, myself being 6ft found it very comfortable in riding. Also being a tall bike, wud look good when u ride it.
Caution: Get ready for those stares from ppl on the streets…
AJ
Jeet responded on 29 Nov 2011 at 10:47 am #
What kind of a crappy comparison is this?? My Thunderbird gives a mileage of 40-42 in the city. Where did editor saab get his inside info?? I have seen an Avenger many times beside my Thunderbird and it looks like a midget, a long one albeit. On a Thunderbird, you feel like a king, you feel like you lord over everyone else. Considering the engine output, acceleration, stability and mileage, it may be the best tw-wheeler in India. Ride it to feel the difference.
I understand that the Avenger guys have to do some PR to sell the stuff but this is taking it a bit too far.
Raja Pillai responded on 14 Dec 2011 at 1:12 pm #
GUY’s dont compare cat with elephant funny dude .am owning bullet for more than 10yrs .after riding bullet i have tested almost all bike including avenger .i feel like am sitting on bench and riding bike dont compare machine with cycle ……………..TBTS rock’s
royalenfeild owner
Rahul responded on 21 Dec 2011 at 9:40 pm #
The Pleasure driving the Thunderbird cant be replaced by Avenger, Avenger is not at all comfortable for tall people and Viceversa in case of Thunderbird. As the name suggest, its a Royal Feeling driving and owing it
Ramakrishna responded on 26 Dec 2011 at 7:16 am #
The mileage of Thunderbird is 36-40KMPL in city and 45KMPL on Highways (long rides) . My brother-in-law is using thunderbird from past 5 years and its mileage is still above 35KMPL in city.My Boss got a new thunderbird in 2011 and its mileage is the same . So thunderbird is very consistent in mileage. How can someone compare it with avenger that too with out getting the facts right.
Jeetesh responded on 26 Dec 2011 at 4:38 pm #
First of all Thunder bird is not a cruiser. Rear tires are not wide and virbates a lot in high speeds and has reliability issues. Just because it belongs to Royal Enfield Family doesn’t mean its good. In fact its the worst bike of Royal Enfield. BEst being Bullet and now Classic. Likewise except Avenger all other Bajaj bikes suck in a big way. Aveneger is the best bike & is the real crusier bike in terms of design and theory whereas thunderbird tries to but fails miserably as its design is awful and not cruiser like.
goutam responded on 28 Dec 2011 at 11:13 am #
lolz..!!….its very funny….u are comparing a bull with goat..i agree,looks of avenger s better than TB. but TB has its own RE style, powerfull engine with high torque..!!.nd i am sure TB gives more mileage than Avenger.!!….nd …if 10 men on a bike s possible, bull ll pull..!!……goat just sleeps.!!…
Partha responded on 03 Jan 2012 at 8:56 am #
I am planing to buy a bike. I have gone through each and every word of this thread. I planned to own the TBTS. I have one doubt about the comparison. If Avenger is giving better acceleration, better performance serve better look with low price then why a people are rushing behind the TBTS? Is it for name and the irritated waiting time?
Jigsaw responded on 04 Jan 2012 at 1:44 am #
@Partha
the TBTS is pretty powerful. imo the accelation is better than that of the avenger ( i ride an avenger 200 )… TBTS is in demand bcuz of the name on the fuel tank RE. if u love the TBTS then go for it… cuz if u do go for any other bike (even if it is another model from RE) there will be times when u feel like u shud gone for TBTS
These are matters of the heart and any amount of brainstorming wont do you any good…
@goutam - pls read btwn the lines for what i think abt ur comments
lolz..!!….its very funny….u are comparing a bull with goat..
if a well maintained 220cc goat can catch up to a well maintained 350cc bull… then why bother going for the bull….
i agree,looks of avenger s better than TB. but TB has its own RE style, powerfull engine with high torque..!!
your high torque is compensated by my higher RPMs… and u find more RE engines seizing up than avenger engines ( or be it any other honda or yamaha bikes also )… most avenger riders prefer to $crerw up their engines during the running in period
.nd i am sure TB gives more mileage than Avenger.
as mentioned above… given that the avenger rider is patient and sensible enuf to cover his run in period properly… an avy gives a higher avg ( m getting an avg of 42-45kmpl in city 48-49kmpl in long rides after 4 years + i have changed my silencer to the indore which reduced my avg )… hope ur getting my point
!!….nd …if 10 men on a bike s possible, bull ll pull..!!……goat just sleeps.!!…
who cud be that stingy when travelling
10 ppl on a bike…
the goat wont sleep… it will laugh its a$$ out… and the bull will be doing the crying…
Listen guys… its not a debate about who has the better bike and who does not… every body has got a different need… tats y v have different bikes to choose from
i think it is high time we all decided to grow up (me included) and help out the newbies in choosing a bike that they can cherish and ride for a long time…
when im riding and something untoward happens to me on the highway i hope that another rider will help me out.. the make of the bike is not important…likewise i dont turn away from another biker who needs help just bcuz he is not riding an avenger
Rahul Talreja responded on 04 Jan 2012 at 5:44 am #
I have taken a ride on both the bikes….everyones needs are different and purchase the one which u feel is the best for u…..I am 6ft tall and so I found the thunderbird more comfortable for me….yes the thunderbird gives more mileage than the avenger. Its a strong bike n will last for yrs…Take care of it n it will love u in return. I have booked a tbts n it should be with me by the next 20 days…..I personally found the avenger very low n ground clearance is nt too good….the weight of the bike is nt an issue coz in the end ur only gonna ride it n nt carry it on ur head…. My personal opinion is Thunderbird Twinspark when it comes to styling, comfort, maintenance and value for money.
Rahul Talreja responded on 04 Jan 2012 at 5:47 am #
N yeah my dad had an eliminator n I used a pulsar 150 digital…..Bajaj bikes are very heavy on the pockets when it comes to maintenance.
Rahul Talreja responded on 04 Jan 2012 at 5:48 am #
N yeah my dad had an eliminator n I used a pulsar 150 digital…..Bajaj bikes are very heavy on the pockets when it comes to maintenance. The electricals of the bikes cannot be repaired everywhere…. Most of the times u havta go to the service station to get it repaired coz a normal mechanic cannot solve ur problems. Whereas any mechanic can repair ur bullet.
think wisely n follow ur heart.
Partha responded on 04 Jan 2012 at 8:49 am #
@Jigsaw
I am very much agree with your comment. I hope u have tested both of the bikes. I am not comparing these two bikes. I am expecting a suggestion from u people who are used with these two. which one should i take?
Jigsaw responded on 05 Jan 2012 at 3:29 am #
@Partha
have posted my opinion/review on 05.09.11. try searching for
Jigsaw responded on 05 Sep 2011 at 2:24 pm
do lmk if i have missed out on something or something more has to be added
Kay responded on 13 Jan 2012 at 4:02 am #
Hi…
I had owned Thunderbird for 4 years…sold it yesterday for 35k. Well… I can tell you from my experience that everytime I went to some mechanic to get it sorted out for some issue or the other he would ask me ” Why did you buy this bike?”… Thunderbird, for me atleast, was not a great bike. It is the kind of bike that requires constant maintainence. There were issues with the clutch wires breaking on continuous usage in traffic, problems with the tappet adjustments, oil leaks from the engine compartment, etc. In my opinion, one must buy this bike only if one has a lot of time and patience to keep getting it repaired and pampered. If you lead a busy life, with 10-11 hrs work life, I don’t think you would consider frequent visits to the mechanic some kind of recreation time.
If you want a Bullet, go for the standard secon hand one…It is a simple device and all the mechanics are bred on it. I don’t think there still are any mechanics for the new UCE twinspark engine except for those in the dealerships.
Consider carefully before you make a purchase based just on emotion and peer pressure. It might just turn out to be a very hard love. And Expensive too.
Hector responded on 18 Jan 2012 at 2:39 pm #
Lol.. this was really a funny review… He says “Riding them in red line gear change will reduce the economy by 5 to 10kmpl”. This is really funny man.I accept Avenger looks fine and is comfortable. No offense.
1) Th’bird has a mileage of 38-45 kmpl which is more than Bajaj Avenger
2) A Royal Enfield will make you feel heavy when you are trying to put it on the main stand, but it feels the lightest when you drive. So, I am very clear that you have never ever got a chance to drive T’bied or any enfield. thats OK. My wishes are with you..
People, I am not against Bajaj Avenger, but An Avenger just looks like a cruiser. All the cruisers are actually thumpers. When you get to hear a thump, you can recognize that there is a cruiser behind you. Thy turn their heads with their sound. Most of the people loves Enfield’s for their sound. Dude, if you love to drive a smooth Bike, then you have many other options. Bajaj copied the look of a Hardley but the thump is still absent. An Avenger looks good till it is parked.
Different Bikes are good for different reasons. None of them can be compared to an Enfield. Only a man will love it. Every man in our country loves it. It is the best of all Indian bikes and cannot be compared to any other.
Darkman responded on 23 Jan 2012 at 10:38 am #
@Jigsaw
Look at all the comments posted. Majority are for the Thunderbird. And the reason I bought up the the motorcycle clubs is because of the passion involved. Nothing about idols or chicks or wearing colors of a club. Different people coming together all bound by one thing…. their love of their bikes. They form a bond with their bike and meet up with like minded people. This is what I intended to bring up. Bajaj bikes way outnumber RE bikes but you don’t see any Bajaj bike club. Like I said before, There’s something that transcends beyond the technical specs. That’s what you get when you own a RE bike and not with a Bajaj bike. Bonding with your bike is very much a part of the passion of riding, and nothing like sharing a ride with like minded people.
Oh and BTW the Avenger’s looks is a copy of the Triumph “Thunderbird”, just like those Hindi movies that are a ripoff from Hollywood movies…. and well RE just took the name
Shreetanu das responded on 24 Jan 2012 at 7:21 am #
Yes the guy who wrote the review seemed bias,
No wonder the thunderbird is really cool and powerful, but the reason that all enfields should be hated is not the thumping sound , but the tweaks that are made to the thumping sound, seriously guys who buy bullet have a psychological status problem, the thumps might make your heart melt , but going on long rides makes it boring, as u only hear the thumping.
But with the avenger, its not so, maintanence depends from yourself, a nice average will be what you will be looking after a long run, if you are spending your own money, not from your dads pocket. Avenger is much more classier, muscle, elegant and smooth. Its not for the rogues, its for the adventurer inside you.
I own an avenger 2006 model, done 50,000 kms, but the engine is still smooth, turns have good balance and yes i still get a solid 120km/h on the highways, and i wouldnot even feel it. And yes the grip on the roads is better on turnings, trust me on that.
After all,
I am not a rogue, i am an adventurer,
I am not a lion, i am the tiger,
I am not bully , yes i am classy
No iam not fool, cleverer than being edgy
I am a patriot, not in the hands of the british still, i am an AVENGER
Did u get me still?
Hector responded on 24 Jan 2012 at 3:32 pm #
@Shreetanu das
Lol.. Wherever you copied it form, it was good. Have you noticed the sound of the Bullet with the new Euro 4 sil.??? It sounds well and if you get a Tilted silencer, it sounds perfect. You can cruise at a speed of 120 with much more stability than an Avenger. However, an Avenger is heavy too and it sticks to the road as well as a Bullet do.
Well, there are a few people who doesnt love the thumps but are wanna be a cruiser riders, Avenger os good for them. I’m just not very fond of Bajaj Bikes but I prefer Yamaha or a Honda. I would have been a fan of Yamaha if they cud launch Enticer in 150-200cc.
And Shreetanu , the new Bullets make a strange noise at the start, say upto 4-5k kms, other than the thumping sound but as the Bullet goes old, it fits better and the Handling part of the new Bullets are far better than the Avenger.
I am surprised to know that your Avenger has completed 50k kms and still running smooth as I have never seen one. However, you may be maintaining it well. Dude, the Bullets with a UCE engines doesnt require maintenance as much as the older ones did. I own a Royal Enfield Classic 350 since last 6 months and didnt have an issue till now.
Well, at the same time, different ppl have different choices, Enfield rocks for me.
I am a proud owner of it.
The world makes way for a Bullet.
Cheers to all the Bulleteers here:-)
Satya responded on 28 Jan 2012 at 4:20 pm #
WTF…Are you comparing The Thunderbird with the Avenger.
The Bullet is always a Bullet, I own A TBTS and proudly it gives me
45-50km/pl, believe it or not.Friends if u want to ride a beast go for a TBTS.:)
Shreetanu das responded on 31 Jan 2012 at 4:01 pm #
@hector
I really understand that the thunderbird is real muscle , real power, and also providing a decent average, i too got a new info. from my fellow doctor, that the engines have been changed to aluminium and not iron casted from 2003.well since i was missing this info, you are right that the average is pretty decent 35-40.
But again its too cocky, i understand its all “being a man” thing to ride bullet, but i hope u have heard that bullets best fuel economy can be explored at a speed of range 40-60km when u increase throttle , u increase fuel consumption. And please tell me a practical story that how many rides do make to the himalayas or a long run of even 150kms a day. Its the story that when somebody goes for a long ride, then the bullet has the power,then its a ride to remember.
Again royal enfield is not a practical bike.
But once more if dont worry about inc. fuel prices or you have other modes of transport then bullet is an asset to own.
For me, i have been to nainital, kaushani, almora hills, jimcorbett national park, jaipur, chandigarh, sarishka tiger reserve. All destinations from delhi with my friend, who is a sort of navigator,and not much luggages just enough, every time i got an average of 40 km/l, yeah it was a bit low on uphill in terms of power, that too because my avenger was carrying me , my friend and 3 small bags, but i got there.
It does not matter when u reach, it matters about how u reach, and at the end of the day when i calculate my fuel economy i land on the the happier side.
To all avengers
I might not thump,
I might not pump,
But i donot kick back
As i am a four cylinder stack.
I dont roar or scream
To prove my presence i follow the windstream.
I am no petroholic that swings with mood
I am workoholic that works for good.
Thanks to god that i am no heritage
And dtsi technology which makes my life modern age.
After all i am a workhorse, built to work with
Not a powerhorse, built to work for and down with.
I am a machine not built to dream for
I am a machine to fullfill your dreams and to die for.
I am your avenger, with the japenese from the indian soul
Not the thumper, british made stained with indian blood and soul.
@hector
The previous one was not copied, and this one too.
Let the avengers work and fullfill dreams , as life is short for bullet.
Shreetanu das responded on 31 Jan 2012 at 4:15 pm #
Last but not the least , explore the world and explore yourself, life is short for wasting time on which toy you want to ride, saving money, for that dream ride , can be achieved with any bike. Just when you are on the roads keep on enjoying the nature, the people, feel it, understand it.
” leave home” as the thunderbird promotes, but return with a different you, because you dont leave home just to ride, u leave home to explore, to see , to understand , to feel, that is the reason we are humans and not beasts.
Be clever, be healthy, drive safe, wear helmets.
Please never even try to hit a 125 km/h on any bike, otherwise one day i might meet you in emergency ward of safdarjung hospital, new delhi. Every day there are at least 10-12 cases of road traffic accidents, all very young , but couldnot handle youth.
Drive safe my friends, remember you have someone waiting for you always.
Hector responded on 01 Feb 2012 at 2:08 pm #
New Bullets have a mileage of 45 nd if you are riding it above average, it gives you 38-39… during the first run, I remember I was amazed to calculate a mileage of 41.1…. it gives me 46-48 now… However, I didnt get it for its mileage.. I just got it when I came to know that its new engine is more reliable and all…
And thumbs up… The above one was cool and good….
Have fun mate @sree.
Hector responded on 01 Feb 2012 at 2:13 pm #
The below one is my post.. I dont remember it where I posted it, but I had a copy saved with me….. I posted it someone right after I purchased my Classic 350.. I was happy that I had a Bullet but at the start, it use to produce some extra noises which was almost negligible… However, there is no such issue with it now.
Dear friend,
I have purchased the bike recently and its mileage is 41.1 at the start. However, the mileage improves after 1st and 2nd servicing and it should be upto 45 kmpl. The more I drive the bike the more I love it. Recently I changed its silencer to one provided by the company if purchased. I goes slightly upwards and bend at the end. It looks awesome and the engine sound is amazing. So overall, I loved the bike. However, I strongly feel that I should also keep my Yamaha FZ and should not sell it coz If you drive bullet on a daily basis, you will surely need a change for a day or two and then you can start enjoying Bullet again…
Jigsaw responded on 02 Feb 2012 at 5:34 am #
@ Darkman
good for u buddy… u hve got riding pals and a riding club… the whole feeling of planning a ride together in a club meet and the awestruck look of ppl who see u guys on the road when u r riding together… and do i need to mention the thundering road of all the RE’s together..
some of us are not that lucky… and unfortunately for us, we bajaj guys dont have a club. I cant sit and plan for the ride like u guys do.
no friend of mine will ride with me just bcuz i feel like going for a ride.. and no club meets and club rides… and no awestruck looks for me on the road too… but i guess i like it that way…
u like to ride with ur pack…i like it when its just me and my bike.
To each his own.
Abt the avenger being a copy of the Triumph T’bird… copy or not, she still looks beautiful to me.
Ride Safe.
Hector responded on 02 Feb 2012 at 1:57 pm #
Many of us are proud owners of an RE Bullet.We love our bikes so much - below a ‘take’ on heights of Bulletism:
Heights of The Legendary Royal Enfield BULLET !
1. If any motorbike has 5 litres petrol and a BULLET has 5 litres petrol, the BULLET has more Petrol than the other bike.
2. There is no theory of motorbike revolution. Just a list of jap-crap that the BULLET has allowed to live.
3. BULLET is the reason, Tata’s after buying Jaguar are still afraid to enter the motorbike segment.
4. When a BULLET moves forward, it is not moving. It is pushing the Earth backwards.
5. If you Google search “BULLET bad bike” you will generate zero results. It just doesn’t happen.
6. Contrary to popular belief, the Titanic didn’t hit an iceberg. The ship was off course and accidentally ran into a BULLET which was thumping some sea waves!
7. The First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed… unless it meets the BULLET
8. There are only two things that can cut diamonds: other diamonds, and BULLET.
9. The BULLET can go around the earth so fast, that it’s headlights can read its rear numberplate in one throttle.
10. Riding Bullets on Beachsides has been banned. The tsunamis were killing people.
11. The 11th commandment is “Thou shalt not piss off the Royal Enfield BULLET” This commandment is rarely enforced, as it is impossible to accomplish.
12. The RE BULLET is “The best a man can get”
Thump PROUD folks!
Cheers,BT
S Roy responded on 06 Feb 2012 at 5:57 am #
Folks - I read the entire review ONLY because the BAD QUALITY of this article amused me and made me incredulous.
The author evidently has ZERO experience of Cruiser Bikes and hasn’t driven either a Thunderbird or Avenger sufficiently, to understand the differences between these bikes.
He has no understanding of how Torque makes a difference to riding pleasure, how the Power and Torque is delivered at different RPM ranges, how the gear ratios are spaced, how the in-gear accelerations are different, how the suspensions behave over good and bad roads, riding position for city and highways etc etc….
A very novice and naive article.
S Roy responded on 06 Feb 2012 at 5:59 am #
Folks - I read the entire review ONLY because the BAD QUALITY of this article amused me and made me incredulous.
The author evidently has ZERO experience of Cruiser Bikes and hasn’t driven either a Thunderbird or Avenger sufficiently, to understand the differences between these bikes.
He has no understanding of how Torque makes a difference to riding pleasure, how the Power and Torque is delivered at different RPM ranges, how the gear ratios are spaced, how the in-gear accelerations are different, how the suspensions behave over good and bad roads, riding position for city and highways etc etc….
A very novice and naive article.
I am NOT SAYING that this is better than that.
Go to Team-BHP and find that information in detail.
I am ONLY SAYING that this article is VERY BADLY Researched and Written.
Darkman responded on 13 Feb 2012 at 11:03 am #
@ S Roy
I very much do agree with you. This article is very biased. Author has no understanding of torque and it’s role in riding.
@ Shreetanu das
Your poem inspired me to write this one
To an avenger From a Bullet
I got the thump,
That will make you jump,
With loads on my back
I do not slack.
I can roar and scream
Letting my owner live his dream.
With my torque no road is an no uphill-task
Am I good enough I have to ask?
I may not have DTSI or anything modern,
But one thing for sure, I don’t give anybody boredom
I may ask a lot yes I do,
But to satisfy your dreams, wouldn’t you do too?
I can give you attention
I can give you even more satisfaction.
Be it anywhere, city or outstation
I’ll take you anywhere with no hassle or complications
I’m from a time where things were simple and honest
Not from this present age, where every politician is a goon and a pest
In these turbulent times of corruption and greed
Casting off all worries and need
I take off, on my back with a load
Just my owner,me and the Road.
Happy Riding
PY responded on 14 Feb 2012 at 8:55 am #
Hi,
I am planning to book TBird eventhough the wating period is 6 months. I am 5.4″, can i handle this beast in city traffic (which involves frequent start stop and slow speeds) ?
street rip responded on 15 Feb 2012 at 7:36 am #
hey guys the thump is just an over rated phenomenon mostly by the street side loosers ask them which is the best car they will nod “maruti 800″ bullet is just an example of how a vehicle is heavily overrated its just a heap of junk which needs lots of pampering. cmon the company cant even come up with a solution for the oil leak the age old (almost 20 years) issue with bullets. the shock absorbers gives out a squeaky noise after 800 kms, tappet noise issue, rust underneath fuel tank all which will happily make a hole in the pocket. enfield was awesome in the era of hero honda cd 100 and scooters. ive owned one and will never buy one. the only guys who are satisfied with bullets are the mechanics (who gets regular repair job from it)
summing up “bullets are all fart but no shit”
ride safe fellas, always wear a helmet.
Rahul Roy responded on 16 Feb 2012 at 10:33 am #
@street rip ..ha ha ha well said.
“If any motorbike has 5 litres petrol and a BULLET has 5 litres petrol, the BULLET has more Petrol than the other bike.”
Thats a true RE fan…juz thump no logic nor brains…Govt should bring up a policy to ban these irritating “sound polluting” shit of a vehicle which are owned by so called fake posers whom gleefully talk bad about other bikers……the only reason they buy these bikes is to try and get associated with some of the things that a few great travelers have accomplished and were incidentally using a Royal Enfield cos there were no other cruisers to go for!
Godlike responded on 19 Feb 2012 at 5:25 am #
A quick question…
What use is the torque on a bullet????
to carry an egotistic braggart.
“If any motorbike has 500ml of OIL and a BULLET has 2 litres of OIL, still there is less oil in the bullet.”
this is the only bike in the whole planet in which the engine oil collects in the air filter panel and that too thru the carb. i guess thats y RE tried releasing classic without a carb. thinking it wud solve the problem. cool idea retards….
one more thing - i can ride my bike at a speed greater than 100 without worrying abt the piston seizing… too bad for u brits
after looking at the Royal enfield bikes and riders now i understand the british sense of humour.
Hamara bajaj is way better(and advanced and trustworthy) than your queen.
Hector responded on 02 Mar 2012 at 2:26 pm #
Yes, as I said, wanna be cruiser bikers can be happy with their Bajaj……
The one who has less than average health and are sick, can never ride an Enfield. The Royal Enfield is only for Indian men.
Its quite simple, not everyone can handle an Enfield and the ones who cant handle will go for a substitute and will be bragging about the same… lol..
And Street Rip, your sentence “cmon the company cant even come up with a solution for the oil leak”. Mate, I guess all you know is what you have learnt from different sources so I can not at all argue with the one who have no idea what he is talking about…
Mates, I thought that people may not be in favour of Enfield but never thought that one can even be against it.. Oh!! I pity those who cant handle the Bull and rather than accepting this, they are talking against it… And I truly pity those who cant afford a bull to.. I am sorry but I cant do anything for that… One who has sense can never speak against enfields and the one who do is either sick, unhealthy, DWARFFFFF lol…. or either cant afford to get an enfield.. and there can be one more reason that their parents may not trust them that they can can handle an Enfield lmao….
Thats alright.. Next time…
There are a lot of senseless people here so I must leave now… good bye… Happy thumping to all Bulleteers out there…. We dominate the Roads as usual…
Rahul Roy responded on 03 Mar 2012 at 12:58 pm #
hector:
“One who has sense can never speak against enfields and the one who do is either sick, unhealthy, DWARFFFFF lol….”
Lol
open your eyes and look around…or give a second look in the mirror whether u belong to the said category…to ride an enfield you need to be a true egomaniac nd if who have a slight inferiority complex then its an added advantage. these are the true idiots who thinks that farting sound from a heap of metal makes them real men.
what good is the fart sorry thump if you cant even cross a bullock cart?
I totaly agree with your point “The Royal Enfield is only for some Indian men.” who thinks 350cc has the power of two bikes and 500cc 4 bikes.
Hector grow up we are not in hero honda CD100ss era things have changed people have rekon that enfield is just an overrated oil leaking heap of metal thats why there are many here in this forum against the “not so royal enfield” you can collectively call them the “enlightened one’s”
and about domination in road ….Dream on mate even bajaj discoverer outperforms you lot.
any ways Happy thumping but if you hear the roar of an avenger better stop or give way to the KING!
tedbunny responded on 04 Mar 2012 at 5:34 am #
@hector
“And I truly pity those who cant afford a bull to.”
talking abt cruiser show me whether ur pocket is big enough to buy a HD or triumph.
the compared bikes are both cheap replicas of cruisers. then the choice is to buy a practical version, historic data proves that enfield may make a big hole in the pocket with its maintanence and the said milage can be achieved btwn 50-60kmph speed anything above that will make the milage to less than 25.
avenger in the otherhand comes from the pulsar stable and is proved as a practicle bike…and by the increasing number of travelogues with avenger i think people are accepting it as a no nonsense bike. (my spell check was not working)
MyBike:( responded on 05 Mar 2012 at 12:21 pm #
I AM CONFUSED LOOKING AT ALL THE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT BOTH OF THE BIKES,
Oil leak in BULL not acceptable in RE.. No . no.. I love RE ..
Bike becomes like all nuts out I don’t want that Avanger, Baja is not a bad brand .. but Please any one tell me .. who may have used both the bikes .. / I love comfort and long rides with ma family.
I have Bull that was retired from army, but that was my brothers, so he took it away .. No oil leak issue with that… But .. I see lots of feedback about oil leak issue.. . What to do …
Godlike responded on 06 Mar 2012 at 11:41 pm #
Hector
“Happy thumping to all Bulleteers out there…. We dominate the Roads as usual… ”
once u are done “dominating” make sure to wipe the oil off the road. who knows another “dominator”
may end up in a ditch because of u. carry some tampoons for your queen with out fail.
RahulRoy and Tedbunny
bull ke saamne been baja ne se kya matlab.
Ride safe brothers
and Dominate safely Hector
rahul responded on 10 Mar 2012 at 2:44 pm #
i just want to say…..avenger sucks
Hector responded on 15 Mar 2012 at 1:26 pm #
Yes sure Godlike.. I am dominating very very safely.. Since I own an Enfield, I never need to show off… and people are still talking about oil leaks.. lmao.. thats real fun and indicates that they have no idea about the Bullets and they only speak about what they have read in different forums…. As I said earlier, only a man have the guts to purchase and use an Enfield… and the rest can be happy with their Avenger.. and cheers Rahul… you are correct…
aakash agrawal responded on 15 Mar 2012 at 10:06 pm #
i want to say one thing ,jab bullet rode pe nikalti hai tab aadmi mudke dekhta hai, k ha saala kuch chal raha hai ,but avenger agar nikalti hai to yato koi dekhta hi nah hai,ya to sab bolte hai k wo dekho baccha ja raha hai……..,so plz….. don’t mess wid bullet…..
aakash agrawal responded on 15 Mar 2012 at 10:09 pm #
i want to say one thing ,jab bullet rode pe nikalti hai tab aadmi mudke dekhta hai, k ha saala kuch chal raha hai ,but avenger agar nikalti hai to yato koi dekhta hi nah hai,ya to sab bolte hai k wo dekho baccha ja raha hai……..,so plz….. don’t mess wid bullet…..
Sanket Sarkar responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 2:10 am #
OK! SO what were you trying to say here Mr So Called Punk Ass wipe..
Are you serious? what do you mean by “They have similar outputs”?!?! Do you know what is torque? do you know what is BHP? do you know that a BHP of a bike can be pumped real high by changing few minor stuff like Freeflow exhaust, Perf Airfilter and one Big Ass carb? Do you know that a 30 or a 32mm carb is used in Bajaj bikes above 200cc? You know what carbs are fitted on enfields? Trust me, you wouldn’t want to know. The reason why enfield has less acceleration and top end than those japfuckincumdrizzling bikes coz they don’t want a 350cc bike to be overpowered. With friggin 150~220 cc bikes.. hundreds of people die due to road accidents.. imagne what kind of damage a 350 cc will do with those huge ass mods? It won’t leave enough brain cells for you to think. Go home, do some homework and then come back with your “Wannabe Reviews”. MR Automobile Illiterate
-Sanket
chaitanya responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 7:45 am #
wht a stupid comparision ,the TBTS gives an avg of 45 kmpl in city ,
never heard of such baised comparision and tht to with a bajaj…
comon guys grow up….
ashuthosh responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 8:27 am #
@sanket
? i can only see ignorent and dumb comments from enfield owners. can someone please make me understand the use of having a bike which by all means cannot be called as a practicle bike.
“Trust me, you wouldn’t want to know. The reason why enfield has less acceleration and top end than those japfuckincumdrizzling bikes coz they don’t want a 350cc bike to be overpowered. ”
trust me enfield is def made for you..so 350 can only have an output of <20bhp? or do you have mor ideas up ur sleeve which includes fitting a goldie silencer will increase torque
gopal narayan responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 8:44 am #
dad: when i was young enfield was everything it was the best
son: same thing dad its still the best, but is there any way that i can overtake a honda activa without the fear of piston fry
dad: not sure son we dint had activa those days, but still its an awesome bike.
son: yeah dad it is.
gopal narayan responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 8:47 am #
dad: when i was young enfield was everything it was the best
son: same thing dad its still the best, but is there any way that i can overtake a honda activa without the fear of piston siezure
dad: not sure son we dint had activa those days, i used to race with bullock carts and cycles and never lost a race……its an awesome bike.
son: WOW dad..its an awesome bike.
Hector responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 10:36 am #
So, finally Gopal admits that he loves Honda Activa and hates an Enfield coz he cant ride it.. sad.. lmao….
Anshu responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 10:37 am #
Ridiculous and idiotic review, or tell how much amount cheque reviewer got , then that may justify the state of mind.
sanket sarkar responded on 16 Mar 2012 at 10:40 am #
@ashuthosh - Indian bullets have output of 20bhp. Its because of a lot of parts which are not meant for a 350cc bike. Have you ever seen the enfields they use outside india? Fed by a 32mm flatside carb, polished headers, racing cams… what not. But where are we going? No where I believe
Oh Yea! Want something more “practicle”?! Go for a bajaj then lol
us guys who don’t give two shits about mileage, will still use bad muthas like bullets 
It was more or less like an FYI
/Sarcasm off
gopal narayan responded on 17 Mar 2012 at 7:01 am #
@sanket sarkar
with all the said addons do you think people buy enfield outside india? its considered to be the worst bike…bike enthus spit on bullets …and here is the best thing one of my friend who visited india commented that the enfields sold here are better than the ones they sell abroad.
“practicle”…dosent mean milage alone its a collection of factors which obviously includes milage, since we are comparing two bikes with more or less the same milage you can eliminate it. what abt ASService, maint etc…..:D
edwincool responded on 18 Mar 2012 at 1:13 am #
gopal
the father son conversation was epic…ha ha ha cant stop laughing
Tushar responded on 20 Mar 2012 at 12:38 pm #
In my past I have owned Suzuki Shaolin 1998, Then Pulsar 180 from first 100 bikes manufactured in (2001) and currently I’m using Apache RTR 180. Now my new office has shifted far from my house and I hate to go everyday in Car. However riding on Apache is practically not possible cause the distance is around 45 KM (with return) and the road is really bad, with the age my shoulders have started to complain if I drive daily on Apache to office and back. When I bought Apache in the same week my brother in law also bought Thunderbird. I have ridden that bike many times. I am considering changing my bike and either go for Avenger or Thunderbird. My feedback on Thunderbird is ( It has lot of maintenance, he visits service station every month with some or other complain) however he is mad/passionate about his bike and loves blindly! I have taken test ride of Avenger and I felt odd in rider position. (I’m 5.10″ tall) I hate bajaj for removing kick. I ran my Pulsar on low battery for 1.5 years by using kick start and running horn/indicators on low battery. About TB, bike is not quick ( note the difference between fast and quick ) also TB has too much metal everywhere! When I was Test riding Avenger I asked technician if a Eliminators Kick can be fitted to Avenger and he said YES!!! Has anyone done this? Can you share your experience?
I’m looking for low maintenance ( 2 servicing in year ) bike with maximum comfort to my shoulders. I do not wish to ride bike above 100 KM/h but I want a quick bike that can reach 0-60, 0-70 quickly. I do not care about the purchase price and fuel efficiency it will give. (I’m happy if it is giving more that 30 Km/L)
Will a Avenger be a right choice? Or should I go for TB? (NOTE:If I decide to go for TB, I will jump on 500CC TB and not 350!)
Tushar responded on 21 Mar 2012 at 3:57 am #
Today I again took the test ride of the Avenger bike. Driver comfort is definitely there but for pillion such a narrow seat looks like a joke! Has anyone modified the back seat of avenger?
Jigsaw responded on 22 Mar 2012 at 7:09 am #
@Tushar - reg mods for the avvy
the avg 180 also had a kick start. it can be fit into the avy 200 n 220.
abt the rear seat - u can opt for a custom seat with the rider seat of an avvy and the pillion seat of a tbts… and go for the foam of the avvy.
Kiran responded on 24 Mar 2012 at 12:36 am #
@Tushar
Why do you need a kick start, those kick start options are all age old bro..dont worry abt battery getting low and bike getting stuck in the road, next time when u go for a test drive try pushing the bike and starting it. It starts like breeze.(worst case scenario)
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Is there any kick start option in bikes anywhere else in the world? don’t think so. Those are primitive technologies
Regarding Pillion seat, it just looks like pillion has a narrow seat cos the rider have a bean bag. try measuring it and you will find its the same as most of the bikes and if ur still not happy with it a good upholstery guy can fix it with some extra foam
Im not sure abt TB500 but comparing to the 350 ones you wont regret buying an avenger.(and trust me its a drool factor)
sandeep responded on 29 Mar 2012 at 12:11 pm #
hi iam planning to buy TBTS soon,but what iam thinking is,iam short so does it suits me?
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Abhilash Nair responded on 31 Mar 2012 at 1:04 am #
Avenger-affordable,stylish,comfortable,value for money.
thunder bird-”King of the street”-Not any more.there are harleys,st7s,triumps for that position.none of these are premium cruisers(bullets were)
my father owns bullet from his college days.he has always got upgrades .i have ridden them for a long while .my cousin owns an avenger 200 2008 and i started liking it after a while.i recently bought a 220 cherry red.i am 5.7 and i find it comfortable than the TB.Both are good bikes.i do accept TB is more rugged.but when it comes to performance,style,value for money ave wins.i had a P 150 2003 model which performs like new.it depends on how u take care of the bike.i find Bullet guys more caring about their bikes .so naturally they last longer.test ride them and decide for ur self.
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